New HOBBYWING 12s!!! max 5 g2 and motors?!?!?

[Surchaufeur]

You know that you can buy motors that aren't sensored and still run them right?

Yes. Cheap ass spektrum and other take off motors instead of buying from the source. You can no longer get old motors hobbywing was selling

 

[Greengaunja]

The XLX2 actually states that all connectors and wires at minimum be able to handle 150+ amps continuous.

 

[Surchaufeur]

Not in the minority. TP seems capable of withstanding more abuse than almost every other motor on the market. Better components help. Honestly, I only ever owned one other motor I felt held up just as good in regards to heat and durability and that's my HW 4985 1650kv.

They can take a lot of punishment because they can pull tons of amps. If you try to run those motors for bashing. Run times will be complete dogshit

 

[Greengaunja]

They can take a lot of punishment because they can pull tons of amps. If you try to run those motors for bashing. Run times will be complete dogshit

Hence why it's always said Castle for speed runs and HW for bashers

 

[Surchaufeur]

Hence why it's always said Castle for speed runs and HW for bashers

Now i question that. With those sensored motors

 

[Greengaunja]

Hence why it's always said Castle for speed runs and HW for bashers

My bad. You meant motor and not esc
I almost want to say a TP can bash as well if not better than HWs motors. Bashing does generate heat with all the stop and go.

My bad. You meant motor and not esc
I almost want to say a TP can bash as well if not better than HWs motors. Bashing does generate heat with all the stop and go.

But you are right about the reduced runtimes

 

[Moirae]

They can take a lot of punishment because they can pull tons of amps. If you try to run those motors for bashing. Run times will be complete dogshit

I'm just fine with my run times and at least 20 of 35 of my rigs have tp motors. Not all tp motors are amp hogs either. I hardly ever go below storage charge and I be ready to go inside. Infact, the 1650kv hobbywing doesn't do any better for run times.

 

[Surchaufeur]

I'm just fine with my run times and at least 20 of 35 of my rigs have tp motors. Not all tp motors are amp hogs either. I hardly ever go below storage charge and I be ready to go inside.

Im saying this based on the spec sheets

 

[Moirae]

Im saying this based on the spec sheets

which means you have no real world experience

 

[slick2500]

Yes. Cheap ass spektrum and other take off motors instead of buying from the source. You can no longer get old motors hobbywing was selling

What? These are all sensorless motors that are still currently available directly from Hobbywing.


https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...ducts/ezrun-max-motors?variant=18438418497651

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...ts/ezrun-3660sl-g2-motors?variant=26945779528

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...ts/ezrun-3652sl-g2-motors?variant=27755255057


https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...-12t-18t-motor-for-1-18-car?variant=214143546

 

[Garcbomber]

The best keeps getting better while the competition just goes up in flames with more “read the fine print” excuses!

 

[Surchaufeur]

What? These are all sensorless motors that are still currently available directly from Hobbywing.


https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...ducts/ezrun-max-motors?variant=18438418497651

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...ts/ezrun-3660sl-g2-motors?variant=26945779528

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...ts/ezrun-3652sl-g2-motors?variant=27755255057


https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...-12t-18t-motor-for-1-18-car?variant=214143546

1/8 motors options non existant unless you want to use a 2600kv or a massive 4985. 2200kv has been discontinued.

People are now forced either buy their new sensored combos for 1/8 scale or put s 1/6 scale motor

 

[dure16]

Not sure everyone appreciates how many amps 250 is or even 400. That's a crazy amount of power and no way our "toys" can handle anything close to that.

200 amps already requires double aught cable

http://assets.bluesea.com/files/resources/newsletter/images/DC_wire_selection_chartlg.jpg

I have MMX8S/1717 combos in a Kraton and Fireteam and they both pull 370+ amps during every run.

 

[Surchaufeur]

which means you have no real world experience

I wonder why spec sheets exist. Totally not there to help decide which motor to buy for a project. I guess i should spend hundres of dollars to find out if they are lying about their specs qnd actually are not that power hungry

I have MMX8S/1717 combos in a Kraton and Fireteam and they both pull 370+ amps during every run.

I have MMX8S/1717 combos in a Kraton and Fireteam and they both pull 370+ amps during every run.

You should plug a TP motor in and see how much amps it draws for science. After all we need real life experiences. Screw the spec sheets lol

 

[Surchaufeur]

 

[dure16]

You should plug a TP motor in and see how much amps it draws for science. After all we need real life experiences. Screw the spec sheets lol

TP unfortunately does not make a motor similar in size to the 1717/4985. Otherwise I would own one.

 

[Cereal_killer]

I wonder why spec sheets exist. Totally not there to help decide which motor to buy for a project. I guess i should spend hundres of dollars to find out if they are lying about their specs qnd actually are not that power hungry



You should plug a TP motor in and see how much amps it draws for science. After all we need real life experiences. Screw the spec sheets lol

At least we all agree on TP motors

 

[Dan B.]

And are you saying amps > volts? I was wondering if 12s would have the motor run cooler than 8s geared for the same speed.

12s will pull less amps than 8s, all other things being equal. Actually easier on the ESC, but it does make more heat in the motor.

And then my hobby shop has trouble getting me 8 gauge wire never mind 10.

10 gauge wire is smaller than 8 gauge. And 10 gauge is one of the most common sizes there is. 8, 7, and even 6 gauge are also very common in the RC community. Don’t know why/how your LHS doesn’t know this.

200 amps already requires double aught cable
http://assets.bluesea.com/files/resources/newsletter/images/DC_wire_selection_chartlg.jpg

That’s ridiculous, and I don’t know what the purpose of that chart is, but it must be for some very high voltage industrial applications or systems with many multiple component draws. At over 0.56” diameter 00cable is roughly the size of your thumb, man. Much larger than the battery leads on your 1:1 car.

 

[Robbbbbb66]

12s will pull less amps than 8s, all other things being equal. Actually easier on the ESC, but it does make more heat in the motor.

10 gauge wire is smaller than 8 gauge. And 10 gauge is one of the most common sizes there is. 8, 7, and even 6 gauge are also very common in the RC community. Don’t know why/how your LHS doesn’t know this.

That’s ridiculous, and I don’t know what the purpose of that chart is, but it must be for some very high voltage industrial applications or systems with many multiple component draws. At over 0.56” diameter 00cable is roughly the size of your thumb, man. Much larger than the battery leads on your 1:1 car.

That chart is for yacht wiring.

 

[Radiocontrolsoul]

I wonder is it just the super short duration these systems are seeing the amperage that allows it to not burn up? I mean 600 amps from even 6 gauge wire is a ridiculous amount. Also do we know how accurate the data log’s really are? Something I’ve questioned in the past but I don’t understand