New HOBBYWING 12s!!! max 5 g2 and motors?!?!?

[Moirae]

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/products/ezrun-max5-esc-g2?variant=40837864194163


250 amps and 12s capable. They're also releasing 3 new 56113 motors, 2 of which are 12s capable.


Castle where you at?

 

[Cereal_killer]

I think you answered your own question… 250 amps…
Xlx2 can pull more than that.

But a rumor that there will be a new castle next year?

 

[Moirae]

I think you answered your own question… 250 amps…
Xlx2 can pull more than that.

But a rumor that there will be a new castle next year?

yea but 600 amps doesn't mean anything to a basher, especially when officially castle will tell you even 300 amps is overdoing it with an xlx2 lol. I would gladly take an xlx2 that capped out at 400 amps if it wouldn't catch on fire for no damn reason. Maybe I'm in the minority but I love running TP motors in everything and sometimes I don't think the typical hobbywing esc can keep up even in a basher. Having something in the middle between the 2 that gives a bit more umph than a max 5 but more durable than an xlx2 would be amazing to me.

And are you saying amps > volts? I was wondering if 12s would have the motor run cooler than 8s geared for the same speed.

 

[BashingBrian]

I'm wanting a Max6 G2/G3 combo..!!

 

[Robbbbbb66]

Link?

 

[Surchaufeur]

Hobbywing shoving us sensorless systems down our throats

 

[Moirae]

Link?

haha its in the first post!! but here you go

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/products/ezrun-max5-esc-g2?variant=40837864194163

 

[BashingBrian]

yea but 600 amps doesn't mean anything to a basher, especially when officially castle will tell you even 300 amps is overdoing it with an xlx2 lol. I would gladly take an xlx2 that capped out at 400 amps if it wouldn't catch on fire for no damn reason. Maybe I'm in the minority but I love running TP motors in everything and sometimes I don't think the typical hobbywing esc can keep up even in a basher. Having something in the middle between the 2 that gives a bit more umph than a max 5 but more durable than an xlx2 would be amazing to me.

And are you saying amps > volts? I was wondering if 12s would have the motor run cooler than 8s geared for the same speed.

What's that saying, over volt under gear

Only issue is all the extra weight of 12s, that's 2x 6s packs that's nearly 2kg's of batteries..!!!
Fine if it's in a 1/5 car/truck/buggy other than that it just seems pointless...

 

[Robbbbbb66]

haha its in the first post!! but here you go

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/products/ezrun-max5-esc-g2?variant=40837864194163

Fuggin stopid. lol

Thanks.

 

[slick2500]

Hobbywing shoving us sensorless systems down our throats

What about Castle? Or Tekin? Or Maclan? They only offer sensored escs. I have never seen anyone complain about that.

 

[Moirae]

What about Castle? Or Tekin? Or Maclan? They only offer sensored escs. I have never seen anyone complain about that.

Seriously, it seems like a plus in my book? especially when the new esc doesn't really cost anymore than the old one.

 

[Surchaufeur]

What about Castle? Or Tekin? Or Maclan? They only offer sensored escs. I have never seen anyone complain about that.

It cost more money. I personally do not care about sensored systems. Hobbywing now went complete U turn and now only want to offer sensored setup and motors. Sensored motors are more fragile and have ussualy shorter rotors. The 4076 motors they offering have a little shorter than a traditional 4074 rotor.

Seriously, it seems like a plus in my book? especially when the new esc doesn't really cost anymore than the old one.

More fragile. Sensors are known to fail. They biffed up the plug but when the sensors inside the motor breaks motor is rendered useless

 

[slick2500]

It cost more money. I personally do not care about sensored systems. Hobbywing now went complete U turn and now only want to offer sensored setup and motors. Sensored motors are more fragile and have ussualy shorter rotors. The 4076 motors they offering have a little shorter than a traditional 4074 rotor.

More fragile. Sensors are known to fail. They biffed up the plug but when the sensors inside the motor breaks motor is rendered useless

You know that you can buy motors that aren't sensored and still run them right?

 

[dure16]

Man I really hate that proprietary sensor cable BS. I know you can buy an adapter but then the temperature stuff doesn’t work.

But a new 12S ESC that isn’t the size of a shoe is definitely a welcome entry.

 

[Greengaunja]

yea but 600 amps doesn't mean anything to a basher, especially when officially castle will tell you even 300 amps is overdoing it with an xlx2 lol. I would gladly take an xlx2 that capped out at 400 amps if it wouldn't catch on fire for no damn reason. Maybe I'm in the minority but I love running TP motors in everything and sometimes I don't think the typical hobbywing esc can keep up even in a basher. Having something in the middle between the 2 that gives a bit more umph than a max 5 but more durable than an xlx2 would be amazing to me.

And are you saying amps > volts? I was wondering if 12s would have the motor run cooler than 8s geared for the same speed.

Not in the minority. TP seems capable of withstanding more abuse than almost every other motor on the market. Better components help. Honestly, I only ever owned one other motor I felt held up just as good in regards to heat and durability and that's my HW 4985 1650kv.

 

[21STalion]

Not sure everyone appreciates how many amps 250 is or even 400. That's a crazy amount of power and no way our "toys" can handle anything close to that.

200 amps already requires double aught cable

http://assets.bluesea.com/files/resources/newsletter/images/DC_wire_selection_chartlg.jpg

 

[Greengaunja]

Not sure everyone appreciates how many amps 250 is or even 400. That's a crazy amount of power and no way our "toys" can handle anything close to that.

200 amps already requires double aught cable

http://assets.bluesea.com/files/resources/newsletter/images/DC_wire_selection_chartlg.jpg

Yeah but the point is the XLX2 has been outputting 300 or more for awhile now. So the 250 new HW hardly makes it a Castle killer. But I DO agree that 250 amps in a basher is just insanely awesome.

 

[Radiocontrolsoul]

I always wondered that as well

 

[21STalion]

Yeah but the point is the XLX2 has been outputting 300 or more for awhile now. So the 250 new HW hardly makes it a Castle killer. But I DO agree that 250 amps in a basher is just insanely awesome.

It just doesn't make much sense is all. Like there's no wires inside a castle ESC that can handle 200 amps. And then my hobby shop has trouble getting me 8 gauge wire never mind 10.

So if you run 200 amps to your 8 gauge wire let's say wouldn't that overheat your ESC all by itself?

We need to start getting some double aught wire in these riggs or the voltage will need to increase (to lower amps)

It's no wonder these rigs can only run for a couple of seconds

 

[Greengaunja]

It just doesn't make much sense is all. Like there's no wires inside a castle ESC that can handle 200 amps. And then my hobby shop has trouble getting me 8 gauge wire never mind 10.

So if you run 200 amps to your 8 gauge wire let's say wouldn't that overheat your ESC all by itself?

We need to start getting some double aught wire in these riggs or the voltage will need to increase (to lower amps)

It's no wonder these rigs can only run for a couple of seconds

You're thinking of it wrong. The wires don't handle those loads continuously. I see the same in household electrical wires. They can take a bunch of quick spikes but not a continuous spike. It's the time it takes to melt the wires and then cause shorts that arcs that lead to fires.