Kraton Kraton 8s EXB .... Discontinued.. nooooooooooooooooooooooo
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The line wasnt sucessful only the outcast 8s rtr remains. Or they preparing a v3 or EXB RTRI've been putting off buying an 8s EXB, because i wanted that to be the crown jewel of the collection, and now just finding out it was discontinued
Anyone know why? (yes i searched previous posts.. nobody knows why though?
Hector_Fisher
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You'd be speculating like everyone else, but the general consensus that i've seen is to push more towards RTR trucks since that's where the money is.
Likely they'll be back, just not in roller form.
Likely they'll be back, just not in roller form.
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I suggest you stop waiting before it's too late.
Better yet, go to the classified section! there are a few big rigs up right now that look like amazing deals. I wish I didn't already have one because I'd for sure be buying one of them.
I suggest you stop waiting before it's too late.
Better yet, go to the classified section! there are a few big rigs up right now that look like amazing deals. I wish I didn't already have one because I'd for sure be buying one of them.
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Nope
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Yea RTR sucks the fat one and arrma is lame af for moving away from rollers if thats what they really have planned.
Horizonhobby wants their electronic cake
They lost me when they went exb rtr. Also keep using the same graphics on their bodies. Once its cool twice alright but now 5 trucks with the same graphics. It gets old and boring quick.
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People are returning to pre-pandemic lifestyles and inflation has increased the baseline cost of living, which means R/C sales are taking a hit. Horizon seems to be pruning poor sellers like rollers and especially large scale vehicles. Hopefully it keeps them from going the way of Hobbico.
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Got a source on that? I’m curious about the numbers.
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I'd suspect it's less of a direct source for "RC" spending and more of the nod to consumer discretionary spending. RC hobby purchases are very much discretionary spending (non-necessary), and tend to take the hit faster than other companies. More susceptible to volatility, if you will.
Last year was tougher for spending wise, which means non-essential, hobby related companies probably took a worse hit than something like Walmart, which is somewhat insulated from that since they also sell essentials like clothing, food, housegoods, etc. Since hobby companies (such as Horizon, for example) only sells items that are discretionary purchases, they will feel the effects of lower discretionary spending at the full effect.
https://www.csnews.com/us-discretionary-retail-spending-decreased-2022
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Yes, it's more of a fuzzy interpolation of other economic data, though I have talked to people in the business who report the same thing. I'm not aware of any publicly available R/C sales numbers.
According to my sources, R/C sales were on a downward trend up until the pandemic, then surged for a while as people sought out alternative activities when entertainment venues, travelling, etc. shut down. Not many stuck with it though, as despite all the lamentations you read on this forum about how Arrma doesn't offer enough rollers with a high degree of customizability, Horizon's problem seems to be the opposite in that they can't make these things sufficiently easy, cheap and reliable to hold the interest of a wider market.
According to my sources, R/C sales were on a downward trend up until the pandemic, then surged for a while as people sought out alternative activities when entertainment venues, travelling, etc. shut down. Not many stuck with it though, as despite all the lamentations you read on this forum about how Arrma doesn't offer enough rollers with a high degree of customizability, Horizon's problem seems to be the opposite in that they can't make these things sufficiently easy, cheap and reliable to hold the interest of a wider market.
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- Talion EXB
- Typhon 3s
- Typhon 6s
- Typhon TLR
I've personally bought enough arrma rigs in the last year to keep them in business. 
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everything you say makes logical sense... but the data the fed is looking at doesn't share the same story.
1) PCE -> personal consumption is at all time high.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PCE
2) and people still have a ton of spare capacity.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DSPI
3) but people are burning through savings, to keep up on their $800-$1000 car payments, and other BS...
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A071RC1A027NBEA
thats why stocks won't tank... there is more to extract.
so rates will still going higher.... till we kill the apes amongst us who have no ability to stop their impulse buying and driving up the cost of things.
Hector_Fisher
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I'm sure there's alot going behind the scenes. If you look at something like the CPI or the cost of living index, it may explain why consumer spending is at an all time high despite actual buying power remaining the same or being diminished. That's at least the way i've been viewing it. I'd suspect most of the changes at Arrma we're seeing were a reaction to last year, so that might also play into the difference here.
https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm
Anecdotally, we may be inserting our own perceptions here in order to explain some of Arrma's seemingly counter-intuitive moves. But i'd tend to think hobbies, specifically RC, is a pretty niche category when it comes to the general consumer's spending. So trying to actually deduce the reasoning behind the changes Arrma's marketing department made from general market trends may prove more deceitful than revelatory. Maybe that info for Arrma is public and available, but it's much easier to just have fun with the speculation
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