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High end esc and motor upgrade?

Discussion in 'Electronics' started by Hye, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. Hye

    Hye Well-Known Member

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    I'm looking to make my beast outcast and/or kraton into a super beast! I want to upgrade esc and motor to still run 6s without overheating. I also would like to have a system that doesn't need me to check temps like my stock system. I've seen tekin rx8 with 2050kv but most run it on 4s. I see many talk about Leopard 40x82mm 1600KV motor with HW esc. I've read about the mamba monster x combo overheating with 6s.

    Let me know where I'm wrong. Tell me what you have experienced. Set me up right! ;)
     
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    Hye Well-Known Member

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    Just had my center diff take a shit today running on 6s doing speed runs with the tekno 12t pinion down my street with my kraton. I was playing around doing wheelies. The planetary gear chewed into the diff housing. A few days ago my outcast's rear diff planetary gear broke in half. The pin that holds it in place was in pieces.

    I've been trying to by shims to "bullet proof" diffs and can't find parts. Now I have to take parts off one to fix the other. I haven't ran more than 5 packs in either truck. I've ordered parts from last month and still waiting for them to go into stock.

    This experience has got me thinking real hard. Is 6s the way I want to go? I don't mind breaking things that I put stress on. Fixing these trucks is easy. But not finding parts is driving me nuts! No shims, no gears, no diff housing, and no backflips. One of my tires got water in it and ripped.

    I've watched vids on the tekin xr8 and smc 1900kv motor. They were doing flips on demand in air and standing backflips running on 4s in mt410. Would this combo also work for me in outcast? I also like the xerun plus esc because it's water proof.

    Someone help me pls.
     

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    That motor you linked to is only 69 mm long. I believe the stock motor is 72 or 74 mm long. When it comes to brushless motors, the bigger the diameter and the longer the motor is directly relates to how much power it will have.
    Having said that, I would recommend finding something longer and/or larger diameter than the stock motor. Maybe look into 1/5th scale electronics if you don't want to worry about heat. Your drive train likely won't last longer than 1 or 2 runs though.
     
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    I just received the tekin rx8 gen 3 with the tekin t8 1900kv motor. I haven't taken out of box yet so it's still returnable. I went with this because it's what people run in the tekno mt410 on 4s and it seems to kick butt. I didn't realize the length of the motor mattered. I need to look into that more. Tyvm for reply. I've been on line for hours trying to figure this out.
     
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    Im running an ezrun max8 esc motor combo on my talion
    I love it i cant even full thtrottle that thing lol
    Lots of power
     
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    Hye Well-Known Member

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    I'm working on sending the tekin system back. Xerun and ezrun are waterproof. For $20-$30 more I'm thinking going with xerun.
     
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    Hey there, I think 5S is the sweet spot for these trucks. They can be geared reasonably aggressively, and even when bashing the crap out of my Talion the diffs have held up.... No shimming. Depending on the ESC, some don't like 5S... Stock you will need an external lvc alarm, but they cost just a few dollars to buy. I still plan to shim my diffs when I get my new set of bearings, but so far so good.
     
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