Kraton Help, about broken diff case twice

[spence]

Hi all, I have a working kraton electronics wise, but I remember I destroyed the stock wing mount, (RPM one ordered) I also recently destroyed a rear diff bulkhead, as it snapped in half, and recently I just noticed after installing the new one, it blew out one of the shock tower ears, so I ordered another one... I don't even drive it that hard, idk if this is due to the shock tower having a slight bend to it? I wished there was an upgrade rear diff case... I guess I may buy a new shock tower, its bent in a bad bad spot... Wow pricey hurray could that be my issue? Its bent at the spot right where it attaches to the diff case so this made the diff case crack already...


Update: its bent like a pretzel at the mounting points too where it broke, I have a 20ton press and a map gas torch, I may give that a try
Thanks
-Spence

 

[Barwolf9828]

Hi all, I have a working kraton electronics wise, but I remember I destroyed the stock wing mount, (RPM one ordered) I also recently destroyed a rear diff bulkhead, as it snapped in half, and recently I just noticed after installing the new one, it blew out one of the shock tower ears, so I ordered another one... I don't even drive it that hard, idk if this is due to the shock tower having a slight bend to it? I wished there was an upgrade rear diff case... I guess I may buy a new shock tower, its bent in a bad bad spot... Wow pricey hurray could that be my issue? Its bent at the spot right where it attaches to the diff case so this made the diff case crack already...


Thanks
-Spence

I used a hammer and a Walmart floor to fix mine. To say it works very well now and I also fix the shock. Lol

Hi all, I have a working kraton electronics wise, but I remember I destroyed the stock wing mount, (RPM one ordered) I also recently destroyed a rear diff bulkhead, as it snapped in half, and recently I just noticed after installing the new one, it blew out one of the shock tower ears, so I ordered another one... I don't even drive it that hard, idk if this is due to the shock tower having a slight bend to it? I wished there was an upgrade rear diff case... I guess I may buy a new shock tower, its bent in a bad bad spot... Wow pricey hurray could that be my issue? Its bent at the spot right where it attaches to the diff case so this made the diff case crack already...


Thanks
-Spence

But for the diff I had to buy one from hobby Town USA

 

[Camo]

Hi all, I have a working kraton electronics wise, but I remember I destroyed the stock wing mount, (RPM one ordered) I also recently destroyed a rear diff bulkhead, as it snapped in half, and recently I just noticed after installing the new one, it blew out one of the shock tower ears, so I ordered another one... I don't even drive it that hard, idk if this is due to the shock tower having a slight bend to it? I wished there was an upgrade rear diff case... I guess I may buy a new shock tower, its bent in a bad bad spot... Wow pricey hurray could that be my issue? Its bent at the spot right where it attaches to the diff case so this made the diff case crack already...


Update: its bent like a pretzel at the mounting points too where it broke, I have a 20ton press and a map gas torch, I may give that a try
Thanks
-Spence

Bash the tower flat with a hammer and a bit of 4x2 worked for me !!
I wish there was a cnc diff case as well that's the most replaced part on my Outcast. Have you seen the pic of Greg's one he was making looks great but had some probs with it so didn't go ahead with it.

 

[spence]

Bash the tower flat with a hammer and a bit of 4x2 worked for me !!
I wish there was a cnc diff case as well that's the most replaced part on my Outcast. Have you seen the pic of Greg's one he was making looks great but had some probs with it so didn't go ahead with it.
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Aw that is a shame, I would pay anywhere from $30-50$ for one, or more lol, I think steel would be even better, like chromoly steel

 

[spence]

Sadly guys I bought a new shock tower, I tried to straighten the old one, but none of the bolt holes lined up to the new bulkhead so yea... Annoying, I just spent $31 on a new shock tower and some 3x20mm screws. Actually total in the rear end rebuild is $63!! Stock A arms, new bulkhead, new shock tower, and an RPM wing mount, I mean do the bulkheads usually break often? I think I lost one due to the destroyed shock tower...

 

[dpricenator]

I have not had an issue breaking the bulkhead. I have a couple on hand in case, but with the tower to tower shock brace, the stress from one shock tower is split between both towers, so each bulk head only take half the pressure. Only thing is that a huge crash may have enough force to break both bulkheads, where with out the tower to tower brace only 1 would have been lost.

 

[gregmbrandt]

the diff housings are still a go ....so close to being done the redesign it is going to be great ...i am also doing a couple other things that will improve the cars ...not copy a design and make it ...i am actually putting engineering aspects into the new parts

 

[JPC]

I had the same problem breaking diff cases ( when I cartwheeled the Keaton) due to the shock tower putting too much stress on the bottom of the tower where it attaches to the diff case. In the end I added bracing to the front and rear towers.

 

[jonUF02]

Stock Tower metal is junk, bent the rear every time I landed on the lid. Bought the carbon fiber clone off Ebay and hasn't bent since. I haven't damaged any diff case though. Voltage is now making 7075 aluminum towers, but the CF has a little flex, so I think that's better for the diff case issue.

As far as parts cost, it's far cheaper to buy assembly lots off ebay from various chop shops than to buy any individual parts in baggies. This is why I have so many spare parts. I got a whole front or rear diff assembly with the case and everything for about $30, less than the price of gear set alone.

 

[Steven6]

I had the same problem breaking diff cases ( when I cartwheeled the Keaton) due to the shock tower putting too much stress on the bottom of the tower where it attaches to the diff case. In the end I added bracing to the front and rear towers.

That is awesome!

I had the same problem breaking diff cases ( when I cartwheeled the Keaton) due to the shock tower putting too much stress on the bottom of the tower where it attaches to the diff case. In the end I added bracing to the front and rear towers.

@JPC what are the rods/tubes you used to make the side shock tower braces shown in the pic? Did you fabricate or are they for some other purpose? Thx!

 

[KrazyKraton14]

Ive been bashing and Flipping only thing breaking is body covers.

Upgrade to Hot racing set combo


Diff case x wing mount x sway bar plate cover x Shim your diffs too

 

[dpricenator]

Please post on how well that wing mount works out. After a few crashes and cart wheels.

 

[Camo]

Ive been bashing and Flipping only thing breaking is body covers.

Upgrade to Hot racing set combo


Diff case x wing mount x sway bar plate cover x Shim your diffs too

Nice rig !!! I’m loving the HR diff cases

 

[KrazyKraton14]

Please post on how well that wing mount works out. After a few crashes and cart wheels.

wing is holding good other than missing screws on the side its pretty strong!!!...I haven't bent it at all other that screws kept coming off but that's it.

 

[dpricenator]

Right on. I am worried it's not a good thing for me, because it's rigid. Somehow I never broke my stock wing mount, but it bent plenty. And since it's now pretty bendable, it'll never break, but it's old. I think the rigid one, would just get permanently bent, or send the stress down the line to break the next thing.

 

[KrazyKraton14]

Right on. I am worried it's not a good thing for me, because it's rigid. Somehow I never broke my stock wing mount, but it bent plenty. And since it's now pretty bendable, it'll never break, but it's old. I think the rigid one, would just get permanently bent, or send the stress down the line to break the next thing.

SO Far i have Not bent or broke it. Knock on wood. Lol. Just carry lots of screws. Lol

 

[Sully_]

I have the same wing mount. I cartwheel the poop out of my truck sometimes. so far its holding up. I think with the HR diff case and the VH shock tower, the rear of that truck is probably close to indestructible

 

[KrazyKraton14]

I have the same wing mount. I cartwheel the poop out of my truck sometimes. so far its holding up. I think with the HR diff case and the VH shock tower, the rear of that truck is probably close to indestructible

Yup add Shimmed diffs and it runs super smooth n quiet. Very indestructible.
Just add washers to wing spoiler so it doesn’t pop off and you are golden

 

[slick2500]

Right on. I am worried it's not a good thing for me, because it's rigid. Somehow I never broke my stock wing mount, but it bent plenty. And since it's now pretty bendable, it'll never break, but it's old. I think the rigid one, would just get permanently bent, or send the stress down the line to break the next thing.

My stock wing mount is as crooked as a politician. I currently have the Rpm wing mount and it too is bending. Might have to try the Hot Racing one.

 

[KrazyKraton14]

My stock wing mount is as crooked as a politician. I currently have the Rpm wing mount and it too is bending. Might have to try the Hot Racing one.

hot racing are pretty cheap parts and affordable on wings mount
you'll be happy with them.