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Building my Kraton

Discussion in 'Kraton' started by KrazyKraton14, Sep 11, 2017.

  1. KrazyKraton14

    KrazyKraton14 Well-Known Member

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    Well. Just Spent more than I wanted

    The goal was yesterday was just buy some use
    Rc cars to play around for the day.


    Ended up getting some traxxas stampede

    And while i was at my local Hobby shop purchasing batteries

    I ended up buying a Kraton 6s
    So now im here

    Bought
    2x 3s Onyx 11.1 50c 60wh lipo 5400mah battery
    Venom Pro Quad Charger


    OPEN FOR SUGGESTIONS TO BUILDING MY KRATON TO LAST LONGER AND RELIABLE

    Current on stable
    X01 with some goodies
    Traxxas stampede
    Arrma Kraton
     

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    KrazyKraton14 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks to @2Hyper for suggestion on
    Some aluminum preventative parts
    I ordered today.

    Question is Can i use my
    Stock screws or willI have to purchase different ones ? If so, what screws should i purchase.
    Thanks.

    Added a Fan today


    Waiting to arrive WednesdAy
    Trencher Tires
    4x lipo 6s batteries
    4x lipo 3s batteries also


    Thinking on putting a
    light bar
    Some
    Good suspension (open for suggestions)
    Body shaft i think its called to lessen the flex (any suggestions also)

    My indy also recommended changing the oil to 70 weight.


    So far thats it. What you guys think?
     

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    @KrazyKraton14 looks like you're off to a good start. The first upgrade I'd suggest for sure is an aluminum servo mount for sure!
     
  4. Jerry-rigged

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    My suggestions -

    Buy a screw kit - then never have worries about missing screws again -
    https://www.amazon.com/RCScrewZ-RC-Kraton-Stainless-arrm007/dp/B01M30D652/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505221219&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=arrma+kraton+screw+kit

    Shim the diffs -
    https://arrmaforum.com/threads/shimming-the-diffs.1769/

    Then Servo mount (voltage hobbies or GKA) and a better servo - something with +300oz-in and speed of .15 or better (I like .10s) I had a Protec 150t in my Talion, it was a beast and silly fast. My Kraton has a Savox 227SG - Also a great servo.

    Last would probably be springs - I see lots of people running Tekno orange springs, although I don't know what length to order (probably the longest ones) Personally, I just stretched my stock spring an extra 1/2" and they were good. Redneck, but it worked (see user name, LOL)
     
  5. dpricenator

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    Here is a post from another Kraton Thread, where I list some aftermarket Screws. I use these anywhere they will fit, and the cap style head on them is deeper and less likely to strip, and they are a 2.5mm hex instead of a 2mm. the tough part is that you have to buy bags of 25 or 50, but you'll have replacements forever.

     
  6. KrazyKraton14

    KrazyKraton14 Well-Known Member

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    Can you Provide Links for It thanks

    Ive been reading on the Shim diy
    I may just do that soon also.

    And springs definitely ill check once it comes in from shop to see which are they.


    And as far as Servo is what are the best ones out there? I see a few selection on savox
    2274sg
    2273sg
    2270sg
    2271sg
    All in range of $100. Which should i get.


    I guess its vase on personal experience.


    Also where do we get the Middle bar piece that help not flex the car. Goes from rear tower to front instead of that breaking.

    Also this part if anyone can provide a link.

    Ok just found the site.
    Do i really need to get all those Hot Racing goodies. Lol
     

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  7. Jerry-rigged

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    I think the tower to tower braces are all DIY.

    As for Hot racing, well that is a can of worms. :) Maybe I'll just say look at Voltage Hobbies instead?
     
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    TAKE THOSE ONYX BATTERIES BACK!!! The onyx batteries are well known for puffing and causing people's cars to go up in flames. You have been warned!!! Seriously, take those batteries back and exchange them for a different brand. There are several threads here in these forums noting and documenting the problems with these. Really hate to come back to your thread and read that your kraton has burned.
     
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  9. slick2500

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    I would never ever buy a screw kit from RCScrewz, unless I was building a shelf queen. I have not heard one good thing about them, they are made from cheap stainless steel and either strip out, bend or break. Get a hold of Tony @ Tony's Screws I have heard nothing but good things about them.

    That middle bar is called a tower to tower brace, I used a piece of 1/2" aluminum bar, cut a notch in one end to fit into the lower part of the rear shock tower, cut it a little longer than I needed then cut another notch on the side to sit on top of the front shock tower. I put a piece of foam under the rear part where it sits on the top of the rear chassis brace and I zipped tied everything down with 8" cable ties.
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    No you do not need the Hot Racing goodies just the chassis braces is all I would buy. Get Voltage Hobbies servo mount and shock towers.

    For springs I am running Tekno TKR6083 in the back and Tekno TKR6093 in the front.
     
  10. KrazyKraton14

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    Welp. Broke the Gear tooth today,

    Fixed under 1 hr. They come with extra gear but thats only 13 tooth one so i end up Putting 14tooth one and holy Sh*t balls! It woke up the car. It wont stop doing wheelies!
     

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    Trust me when I tell you this, that other pinion will not last long. Get a Robinson Racing pinion put threadlocker on the motor shaft as well as the grub screw.
     
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    Wow good Thing. My hobby store ordered me some smc


    Let send me some link that is good.
    I think battery i order from her are some onnyx as well. Ill have her change it.

    I seen this battery also are they good?

    If u have better suggestion. Pls add some link here

    My main thing is battery that will last me some play time and some power but not over doing it.
    Thanks

    What part of robinson part # should i get

    Yup i did use loctite on the motor shaft screw
    The big gear what should i use ?
    Add link also
    And i will be doing yhe shims as well soon.
     

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    I am running the 12t on my Outcast which is RRP1212, if you want run a 13t pinion it is part number RRP1213. Whatever tooth size you want to run just replace the last two digits with the tooth count. Be careful to pay attention to the actual gears when shopping as some part numbers bring up Vintage Robinson Racing 48p gears(seems they recycled part numbers) I buy mine off ebay as they usually have the lowest price. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Robinson-Racing-X-Hard-5mm-1-0-Mod-Pinion-13-RRP1213-/172743663430?epid=1500312215&hash=item2838531f46:g:pZEAAOSwstJZS-l2

    As far as I know there are no replacement spur gears. You are stuck with that size unless you swap out the center diff for one from a different vehicle.

    There was a thread over on URC about batteries and few guys said they used those Basher batteries( I think Vas from Aussie RC Playground uses them as well) and said they worked pretty well.

    The Hobbystar batteries I am not to sure about.

    If you are looking at budget lipos I have heard nothing but good things about the Geforce series batteries from valuehobby http://www.valuehobby.com/power-systems/batteries/3s-lipo/elite-40c-5000mah-3s-t.html
     
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    Losi mod1 pinions worked flawlessly for 2 years in my ofna buggy...
     
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    I was reading a thread over on either the Traxxas forums or RcTech about pinions, and there were quite a few people raving about the Losi pinions.
     
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    Thought on what good battery i should get here


    Whats the difference between the 3s
    5200 mah 45c Vs 5600 60c


    And the higher C count kraton can handle that?
    If i get 5600mah 60c 3s 2x batteries for kraton i should still be fine im assuming.
     

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    Got a little playtime after work
    Before the pinion broke





     
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    Spoke to Smc Rep danny. Via email. Very fast replies almost like we are talking to each other.
    Ended up ordering 2x
    6700 mah 145amps/90c w/g10 plates
     

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    That'll be a great battery. And you will get a ton of run time on the 6700Mah. Just remember longer run times mean your motor and ESC may get hot. Only because it needs a chance to cool down here and there. Just keep an eye on it, at first. Then you will get a feel for what you can do and for how long. How heavy is that thing?
     
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    From everything I have heard about SMC you will not be disappointed.

    456gr /16.08oz
     
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